Posted at: 02/12/2013 4:49 PM
Updated at: 02/12/2013 5:22 PM
By: Amanda Ciavarri
News10NBC continues to listen to hours of audio recordings from a Rochester mother who admitted to starting a fire last year that killed four of her children.
Bobbie Kugler started the fire at her home on Grape Street last February. Her children, Gage Reavey, Greg, Kandee and Kaiden Kugler.
Kugler said, “I was drunk, so I meant to lay down for a second. Okay, cause I had just took those stupid pills. I took more than I was suppose to that night too, cause they just don't work. I took two Ativan pills and two Ambien pills cause they don't work for me and I laid down. I only meant to lay down for a second and I woke up to the fireman coming in there.”
The recordings are from when investigators picked up Kugler in Poughkeepsie and where driving her back to Rochester to be arrested. For a majority of the almost five hour car ride, Kugler is just sobbing, but about halfway through the ride, she talks with investigators about how she is haunted by what happened that February morning.
Kugler said, “I have dreams about my oldest son. I tell them in therapy. My oldest son always tells me he can't breath.”
Kugler admitted about a week before that car ride to being high and drunk the night of the fire. She told Rochester Police Department investigators that she was mad at her ex-boyfriend and lit pictures of his on fire and threw them on dresser filled with flammable material. Kugler said she fell asleep and the fire grew out of control. She was woken up by the firefighters in her home.
During the car ride back to Rochester, you can tell Kugler is a broken woman and very depressed about what happened. She tells investigators she feels responsible for her children's death and when they tell her she needs to be strong for her two surviving children, her response was this:
Kugler said, “I love my other kids, I do. I really do. But it would be easier if it was them and not my older kids.”
Investigator said, “Why do you say that?”
Kugler said, “The older kids grew up with me. I had 14 years with them. They were my best friends.”
She was choosing her children who died over the ones that lived. News10NBC listened to almost nine hours of the recorded interviews with Kugler and it was clear to me that Kugler was at a point where she didn't care if she lived or died or even what she was telling investigators.
Monday will mark one year since the fire on Grape Street.
Last month, she was sentenced to 7 to 15 years behind bars for the fire.